Reverend Barry ([info]transformergeek) wrote in [info]convert_me,
2009-03-02 18:16:00
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So I decided to join the KKK...

Sure, I don't agree with their notion of white pride. And I don't believe in their desire to cut off all American foreign aid, nor their desire to outlaw homosexuality, nor their anti-abortion stance. I think their plans for creating a Christian nation are horrible and damaging. And I think their history of racism is a truly terrible thing.

But there is a lot of good that comes out of being in the klan! A sense of community. A sense of belonging to something bigger than yourself. They're deeply rooted in family and tradition. And some of the things they believe in, I also agree with. They believe in supporting strict environmental laws. They believe in balancing the budget. They stand behind states rights, and they strongly support veterans.

I can call myself a Klansman, even though I don't agree with everything they believe in. And I can still go to klan meetings, even though I disagree with some of their core tenets. I'm just choosing the parts that I like, and I'm going to with that, while I ignore the parts of The Klan that I disagree with.

So really, there's nothing wrong with The Klan, or being a member. It's just a personal matter of how the individual chooses to live their life.

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[info]ex_lost_kit

March 2 2009, 23:23:31 UTC 3 years ago

Sounds good to me.

[info]the_new_lemon

March 2 2009, 23:24:50 UTC 3 years ago

I can call myself a Klansman, even though I don't agree with everything they believe in.

You can in the sense that no one is stopping you. But no one else is obliged to pretend along with you.

[info]proapathy

March 2 2009, 23:28:30 UTC 3 years ago

agreed.

never saw the point in being a part of something you don't actually fully believe in. but that's me.

[info]pastorlenny

March 2 2009, 23:32:30 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, but you're still an American -- and America is all about incarcerating young black men and burning hydrocarbons. So your identity as a Klansman is morally trivial in comparison to your identity as an American.

[info]hexar_le_saipe

March 3 2009, 00:59:48 UTC 3 years ago

But the John Birch Society is still okay, right?

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[info]just4kinks

March 2 2009, 23:36:33 UTC 3 years ago

Organizations have an effect on the world. This effect can be positive or negative. It is the membership of an organization that causes it to survive and thrive. Unless you are making significant impact on the nature of the organization, joining it leaves you responsible for the positive or negative effect on the world.

The Klan has a negative effect on the world. By joining you have adopted responsibility for that ill.

[info]pastorlenny

March 2 2009, 23:56:59 UTC 3 years ago

So how much responsibility do you take for the war in Iraq?

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[info]glitteringlynx

March 2 2009, 23:46:10 UTC 3 years ago

LOL

That was hilarious. :)

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March 3 2009, 06:24:49 UTC 3 years ago

;-)

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March 3 2009, 01:59:03 UTC 3 years ago

I dont think that people will get that this is a knock on christianity.

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March 3 2009, 02:03:27 UTC 3 years ago

LOL! No?

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[info]spamsizedbungee

March 3 2009, 02:36:38 UTC 3 years ago

I saw this on the Atheism community and wanted to see the comments it got here. It is sad that the first comments were taking it seriously. :(

[info]just4kinks

March 3 2009, 18:13:12 UTC 3 years ago

Don't include me

When I wrote my reply I was mindful that the price religious people pay for allowing themselves to believe they are immortal is paid in part by victims of suicide bombers.

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March 3 2009, 02:37:21 UTC 3 years ago

I always knew the girl scouts were selling racism and not mint cookies.

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March 3 2009, 04:39:52 UTC 3 years ago

Duh, buying and trading of the black ones. Girl scouts is really slave trader training.

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March 3 2009, 02:42:12 UTC 3 years ago

Self-identification is how we get people calling themselves "women Catholic priests" even though no such thing exists.

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March 3 2009, 02:52:30 UTC 3 years ago

Up yours! I'm catholic!

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[info]evil_genius

March 3 2009, 10:34:24 UTC 3 years ago

This.

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March 3 2009, 08:28:12 UTC 3 years ago

First [info]zephret, now you... Weirder and weirder...

[info]zephret

March 3 2009, 11:52:58 UTC 3 years ago

Can you see the fnords?

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March 3 2009, 09:19:49 UTC 3 years ago

we see what you did there

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[info]pastorlenny

March 3 2009, 15:52:44 UTC 3 years ago

If someone doesn't know what the Church is, then they can just assert that it is analogous to some organization like the Klan.

This is another reason for anti-religionists to eschew education. It would rob them of the fun they have making specious analogies.

Also notice the ducking of alternative analogies -- such as nation and family.

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[info]eracerhead

March 4 2009, 05:12:00 UTC 3 years ago

BTW, your post is brilliant!

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March 7 2009, 01:49:35 UTC 3 years ago

You reminded me of the old Max Headroom pirating incident. Thanks for that.

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